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Carboy15 Lotsa houses.

Maybe something more like this. Or extend Fermor straight down Oakenwald to McGillivray. It ends a bit south and west at Waverly though because of the angles of all these streets.

Carboy15

Fair point. Your alignment makes sense. It reminds me of the Wilkes-Jubilee connector I posted on Stroadz, although designing a road near the Jubilee overpass could pose challenges. Navigating through the neighborhood along Oakenwald might be feasible, and the Fermor-Oakenwald bridge would be the simplest option. But I can see how school zones in that area could trigger opposition.

My proposed Wilkes-Fermor connector has a few advantages:

It bypasses school zones, minimizing local pushback
Its angle lends itself more naturally to connecting Wilkes with Pembina and Fermor. Also it would be easier for Westbound traffic wishing to head onto McGillivray have less distance to drive South on Pembina.

Your plan does well in minimizing land expropriation, though expanding Jubilee might be cheaper. The road is probably too developed for that to be viable, and the neighborhood opposition could be fierce. It's kind of a trolley problem, really.

Personally, I think strengthening the Sterling Lyon connection is more of a priority. It feels disconnected from Pembina Highway and could benefit from greater integration. Taylor Ave is too built-up for meaningful upgrades. Ultimately, this kind of project could kick-start redevelopment and unlock the potential of our rapid transit system through some solid transit-oriented development.

Carboy15

But I noticed we could sneak McGillvary between the two school zones. So maybe it wouldn't be as hard to do.

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Carboy15 Ya the McGillivray extension makes a lot of logical sense. It's just quite close to Bishop. So we get a duplication aspect. Would be better to cut farther north.

But ya, Oakenwald is probably the simplest route all in all.

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Carboy15 Another option.

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That could work too. It would take a but of work to sneak it between the industrial park and BRT Way plus Parking Lots

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This Waverley Extension and cross town McGillivray/Wilkes Extension we've been talking about is way more important than I originally thought.

Here's rush hour traffic patterns.

I always thought Portage Westbound was the problem during evening rush hour.

But Google kept showing Eastbound traffic jamming up. It confused me. Then I realized it's from Erin Street. People are trying to get south and east, and they have to cut into the city to do so. Adding even more strain on Maryland and Osborne.

The Waverley to Wilkes to Fermor Stroad would solve this issue.

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Carboy15 Here's a short term patch to the inner portion of these cross town routes.

Convert St Matthews, Ellice, and Sargent to one-ways. Reopen Wellington by garbage hill.

It's a patch, but would provide a major relief valve for cross town traffic.

Carboy15

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That's not such a bad idea. It's kind of a shame they didn't plan St Matthews well to have an expressway standard. I would say yes to turning St Matthews and Ellice pair into one way streets. Sargent and Wellington I'm not so sure.

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Carboy15 Sargent and Wellington I'm not so sure

Ya thought the same. Then I thought maybe a 3 and 1 lane setup. But reversible lanes would also be a great fit here.

Get 6 lanes into downtown in the morning, and 6 lanes out in the evening. Best of both worlds.

Carboy15

Hopefully at least something can be done to St Matthews Ave to improve traffic, whether that's turning St Matthews and Ellice into one way pairs, or linking it with Broadway.

But like we discussed in the Winnipeg Transit page, upgrades to Portage Ave would be helpful to imrpoving traffic flow. Since there are 4 lanes per direction in the widest areas, lots can be done to it.

Removing street parking and converting it to transit use is a first step.
Either a BRT way could be built in the middle of the road in a similar fashion to the Pie IX Busway in Montreal. Or, The outer lanes could become segregated Bus Lanes which would be easier to construct and help serve local businesses. Maybe both could be done and help improve transit.
Also too, removing many unnecessary traffic lights would play a big role in fixing Portage Ave. But this would be pretty tough considering this road is built up with decades worth of apartments, businesses, etc. Removing many access points where there aren't traffic lights and just having RIRO Intersections would be logical.
And at traffic lights, they should add u-turn signals for those wishing to visit a business on the other side of the road, making up for the removal of the access points.

Carboy15

I'd upgrade the Unicity mall enterance a bit.

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Or even improve the back accesses to businesses. Like here at Oxbow Bend Road as a service road for Portage Ave

Carboy15

Also, now that a Costco is being built at Headingley, I kinda what's going to happen with out infrastructure?

I have a feeling that area will be a Zoo similar to Route 90. Highway 1 is already a critical transportation route with tons of traffic, and adding all those businesses there will make Portage Ave West of the Perimeter even more of a choke point than it already is. That area has been booming over the years. Within the past 20 years many businesses have popped up. Some hotels appeared (including the Motel 6, Best Western Plus), Car Dealerships, Pilot/Denny's, and multiple apartment complexes have been built lately. Headingley itself has been booming as a community.

I'm sure the Perimeter Cloverleaf at Portage will eventually be upgraded to a Parclo or Diverging Diamond.

But hopefully that would encourage the government to consider building the Headingley Bypass. This time we'd have a logical reason to actually build it, not just as a trophy LOL.

Carboy15

I see here at the Granduer Homes enterance in Headingley, I notice there used to be a traffic light there in 2007. I'm kinda curious what was there for a traffic light to exist. That road pretty much goes nowhere.

Edit, I see now. There was a Drive In Movie Theatre. I thought there would've been a Sports field or something there. Drive in theatres are fading away nowadays, and I want to go to one someday.

Carboy15

Almey Ave access to Focus Hyundai and SCU should be converted into either a RIRO Intersection or a partial segregated T-intersection. Traffic wishing to go onto SB Lag from EB Almey would head to the cloverleaf at Concordia.

The partial T-intersection could use an on-demand traffic signal that would start operation 2 hours before the SCU and Focus Hyundai open and turn off 2 hours after they close. Sundays the signals would turn off completely as the businesses are closed. The intersection would be treated like a normal intersection and to go when it's safe to do so.

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